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#1096 - 08/04/01 12:50 PM
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Skipper, either you're short sighted or you're just short. Either way your ability to excel is just limited.
How would you like to qualify your kids for college, only for them to drop out in the first semester, everytime.
Would you give credit to yourself and say, at least you got them enrolled and that's good enough for you. Or, would you justify your actions by saying you have no money, and the alternative of student loan or sponsorship is not your style.
And what about the ambitions of your kids, sacrifices, cho...
Hey Skipper, yaa hear mi, just...cho..
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#1097 - 08/04/01 01:10 PM
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Gwaan thru.... 
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#1098 - 08/05/01 05:00 PM
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the reason me a gawn so is because de man dem
act as if dem no know yard runnings we no
have de resorces bredren . on a serious tip
bredren when we qualify we under 20 me
remember how mexico press run come a yard
come see how we no have a great program &
money & still kick dem ass & qualify & dem
go home so all a you a say de jff no have no
use please ,you cant get me to agree with you
guys on this further more certain things should be emailed to the jff & not discussed
on the open forum every body read this,dont
disgrace the country lets email the jff with
our gripes plus i think its more effective any way .
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#1099 - 08/05/01 09:38 PM
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Ideas posted so far that caught my eye; I avoided repeats:
Jagga –
-would keep Burrell and Carl Brown and use their experience (Guidance edit: considering they want to remain under the Interim President), to contribute to the program.
-Evaluate staffing and make cuts/changes were appropriate.
-Reduce waste of resources and hire an Exec. Assistant.
-Use Internet to reel in more funds
Shaggybear:
-Restore integrity especially in disbursement of funds
-Fairness in selecting players for national programs
-open up dialogue with players
-Finally develop a system of planning matches
JahB:
-get help(sponsorships) from private sector
-hire a PR person/firm
-hire a coach with a successful history who can produce for JA
-School for coaches
-full-time program for U-20s(Guidance: sounds good but for how long, considering guys in college, have jobs and play for clubs).
Jt:
-establish football academies
-Register all eligible players and maintain Dbase
-Put the RGirls on the map
-Develop plans for soccer stadium
Zouse:
-the TD for the senior teams A and B is responsible only for those teams
(Guidance: mi luv that, TD can’t run around like a chicken wid head cutoff TDing dis team and dat team. U-15, U-17 & U-20 gots to have their own coaches/TDs and Fully responsible for those teams)
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#1100 - 08/05/01 09:40 PM
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Guidance’s 12 Months Program:
1. Coaching Staff/Officials/Referees:
a) -Develop a Short but Intensive Program for school and club coaches taught by a seasoned pro (who can teach), and get it RUNNING within 6 months
b) -the same for referees with help of Referee Assoc.
c) -Hire a management expert for club officials and Federation officials – teaching them fundamentals of sports management
d) -hire 2 scouts/laision officers. One base in US(MLS, A-League, college), one in UK/Europe to meet and talk with our overseas players, being there, on the scene can be a big help in many delicate situations. More youths getting contracts so the need will arise for more scouts, expand by contracting with reliable freelancers. Obviously these scouts will help with info on other teams/players who we will play against.
e)- Work out a 12 months Program with the TD, give him a free hand, whatever he wants that makes sense and then see how he measures up
f)- Assess the organizational structure of the JFF, with help from a consultant and make changes were necessary
2. Facilities/Equipment:
a) --Start construction on 2 mini-stadiums within the 12 months. Base in areas where they will get maximum usage, say Spanish Town, May Pen, Sav’, Mandeville, etc. These minis will have top class gyms for local teams to utilize at a reasonable cost. Open them to the public and operate 24 hours if the demand is there. Use the funds generated from these to help fund other mini stadiums. With these minis in place we can compete for FIFA world competitions, U-17, U-20.
b) --Work closely with the clubs in putting in place programs to raise funds to bring their playing fields to a good standard(man bruking foot in training caus a pothole got to stop)
Negotiate with the Govt & Private sector to assist the clubs with securing low, low loans or grants
3. Public Relations:
a) Make a Financial Statement available to the public within the first 6 months. Repeat Yearly.
b) Buy permanent weekly spots on TV and Radio, 1 or 2 hours where football is the subject. Interview officials, players, coaches, etc. Hire a media outlet to produce and promote the spots. Sell the game, hype the competitions, PROMOTE, PROMOTE.
c) Establish a flagship RBoyz store in Kingston and franchise other stores to willing, eager entrepreneurs in Mobay, Ochie(crui$e $hip customer$), London, Miami, N-York, Paris.
d) Bring the Boyz into the schools to meet the kids, make them see how much the young ones look up to them
e) jt, I think suggested the players payback! Yes payback! National team players, especially capped players are expected to participate in a local football summer camp at least once every 2 years, 1 or 2 weeks
More to follow:
4. Players
5. Etc.
6. Etc.
7. Five Year Development Program – following the interim period(what I am leaving for me or my successor to continue on)
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#1101 - 08/05/01 10:50 PM
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yes 'ites...love all the ideas....
skipper you need to wake up...
Not bcoz Mexico tell yu something you are going to believe it over what your own people are showing U..
U and a lot of others keep spreading rubbish about what the JFF have achieved but for the two years I have been around this site NO ONE HAS YET TO COME UP WITH ANYTHING WORTHY OF SHOUTING ABOUT.
IN MY OPINION, the REGGAEBOYZ are successful bcoz of the desires of the participants. THE Individuals who have dreams and aspirations of making it in the football world.Those who have no other choice but play there way out of problems.Those who have recognised there talents and have used them. Burrell, if he had the desire to make Jamaica big in football would not be stumbling now. Jamaica with all the desires, dreams, talent. Jamaica with all the potential is virtually one of the easiest FOOTBALL ASSOCIATIONS to develop. There are only a few Associations that can boast about being name brand associations. Ask anyone who the SAMBA BOYS are.. They can tell U. Ask anyone who the Eagles are... They can tell U. Who wears ORANGE,, THey can tell U.Everybody knows who is refered to as THE REGGAEBOYZ. WAKE UP SKIPPER. WAKE UP.
Gears a nuh de problem. Nooooooo
Personnel a nuh de problem.........Nooooooooo
Money a nuh dem problem... Dem get that already.....
THE JFF MANAGEMENT ARE FRAUDS>>>>>>
IF THEY HONESTLY HAVE NO MONEY. THEY HAVE A GREAT POTENTIAL TO CREATE FUNDS.IF THEY ARE NOT USING THIS GREAT POTENTIAL, THEN THEY ARE USELESS. THEY NEED TO BE GOTTEN RID OF.
SIMPLE.
When a man dont have money there is no hesitation fi pull out him empty pocket and show sey him bruk....Just a natural mystic. No accountability...No ease up.And there is NO POINT emailing the JFF. Many have tried. They cant even maintain the likkle web site much less run a football program...
U basically dont have a mind of your own Skipper. If U do.. Prove it and stop telling us what foreigners tell YOU. Its appalling that U reside IN JAMAICA, and rely on foreigners to tell U about your program.... WAKE UP...
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#1102 - 08/06/01 04:28 AM
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Skipper a betta you you low the JFF bashment crew. you no see a pure two left footballer inna da crew deh.Right now me call me Bredren Cappleton fi come bun dem out.mo fyaah! OH sh** I have got this spliting headache thinking about what will happen to the program if Shaggybear became President: thunder & light... hell & powderhouse, fire & brimstone, rain, snow and mudslides....
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#1103 - 08/06/01 10:30 AM
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soup_bone1
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Posse trait No. 2
They take their own mis-guided impressions and use them as FACT to support some lame argument and then call it LOGIC
Easy JT...............
Guidance
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#1104 - 08/06/01 10:41 AM
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soup_bone1
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Guidance me fren
Would you be able to fund all that you have proposed through merchandising alone??
Cause that's the only income you mentioned and a no "monkey money" fe some a dem program deh.
Guidance
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#1105 - 08/06/01 11:17 AM
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heh heh. big up morefire1. You strike me as one who would dig off into battle and get so caught up in the excitement that him forget him gun on the dinner table. hahahahah.
You might have a lot on you mind because it don't seem that it take too much at all to bring on that splitting headache. heh heh
My post above was not an attempt to lay out a strategy for management of the JFF. It was simply me rehashing potential ills which need to be cured. If I laid out a plan for the JFF it would be comprehensive and would be complete only after consultation with the people on the forum. I might talk to you as well.
Which brings me to my only point here. I seem to remember one of your first posts on this forum was after you did do likkle reading on Keith Kelly and was ready to fight gainst everybody bout whether he was the best upcoming midfielder in JA. Fortunately for you noone here took you on in your challenge. Why? If I remember correctly you had missed the point in the whole discussion that was going on at the time.
Similarly, here, you a light up fire all over the place and have missed the point of this post--Construction. So before you bun off you hand or you foot (as you already have very little leg to stand on), why don't you cook up something....like your OWN idea of what would be a good constructive plan for improving the JFF.
If you feel the JFF is perfect the way it is and needs absolutely no improvement, then so indicate.
I await your valuable input to this topic....
[This message has been edited by shaggybear (edited 08-06-2001).]
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#1106 - 08/06/01 01:30 PM
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4. Players & Clubs:
a) Critical Issue #1 – Encourage Players, local and foreign based to form a Jamaica Football Players Association, JFPA. This would be funded by the players contributing a reasonable annual fee of say J$2000/month and each player, one vote. Now with a base of say even 500 players you are looking at initial funds of J$1,000,000.00, a good amount to operate a part-time office, contract a small team of an attorney and an accountant, plus do the leg work to get some Pro Bono stuff from guys like ShaggyB. The Players Assoc. will be the medium to use to negotiate contracts and settle disputes between local players and clubs and all players and the Federation and solve a lot of this ‘advantage taking’, lack of representation, etc. Basically, the players cannot deal with the clubs and JFF in a ‘hurry come up way’ no longer. IF they are or gonna be pros, they have to have a professional setup.
b) Establish the database, Online. Local clubs and registered JFPA members have free access. With the players consent, make the Dbase available to overseas clubs for a fee(you are making info. available to foreign scouts) and getting funds to help maintain the Dbase.
c) Full-time Nutritionist & Assistant – who VISITS, not just telephones clubs and implements programs.
d) Encourage clubs to split the ownership costs & rewards between more companies instead of more companies and groups starting more teams. A club has a better chance to survive if the risks are spread between 2 or 3 or 4 investors than one investor bearing the full load. Hence clubs will have more resources and are positioned for faster development.
e) Rules of the Game and basic fundamentals have to be taught early from elementary school level and definitely by early in high school and not wait until players reach club level. Through audio, visual, print or demonstration a program would be designed to be implemented into the schools.
f) Goal Scoring is a big problem, highlighted recently when Finland’s U-20 coach said of us ‘We know they do not score a lot of goals’. I think the rest of the world knows that by now. So I would have the entire Technical staff work out a program to implement wherever ball is played in Jamaica to increase goal scoring.
g) Strength and Endurance is another aspect the Technical Staff will have to address on an islandwide basis, Pronto.
h) Establish a ‘How to be an Ambassador for Jamaica Wherever You Are’ for ALL connected to the game, especially players, coaches and officials.
g) All national teams need to play together against quality opponents At Least once x 4 months
5. Funding:
a) My Gosh, you can’t go to World Cup and Bawl bruk so quick. Games are well attended so gate receipts usually end up into a kitty. So I would need to know where the money went and IF it is was misappropriated then it HAS to TURNED IN and if there is no movement on that front then my tenure will stop at exactly 12 months and would not even consider a permanent appointment.
If the kitty really low and legitimately so, then I still do not have a serious problem. The mini stadiums will be constructed from low interest loans and will generate revenue. Only two scouts/liaison officers will be hired initially and if things tight we start with one. More scouts and hiring of freelancers as the program develops slowly but surely.
The media spots will be paid for by advertisers. Since we will contracting out the production of the shows and paying stations upfront - the excess is ours so basically nothing comes out of the kitty for those promotions.
[This message has been edited by Guidance (edited 08-07-2001).]
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#1107 - 08/06/01 05:10 PM
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Shaggybear what point did i miss in the keith kelly discusion? i said he was the best young midfielder in the Country and to take it step further he should be included in the current squad for 2002.I will stand by that I've watched this kid play a few times, he is the real deal. Anyway, me know you is a man who always do him research still, so respect my yute no hard feelings.I have to admitt i get a little piss*% when I read some uno post. no more six pact before I post.I can never say the JFF is perfect cause i dont have the facts, but neither do you.So what if Burrel and Reid dont have Phd and Bsc like you & the rest of yu JFF bashment crew give them the benefit of the doubt sometime.mo fyaah!
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#1108 - 08/06/01 06:26 PM
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ohhhhhhhhhh.. So a dat a de problem....
Correct me, if I am wrong. But is it the case that in Jamaica football is considered a GHETTO MAN sport. So basically certain man defending the JFF bcoz they more identify with Burrell and Reid and the Ghetto coaches.. with the players with the ghetto attitude.
And so the feeling of being threatened by all these graduates and computer coaches etc who want to take over the game after the ghetto man mek it reach so far...
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#1109 - 08/06/01 06:46 PM
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jt
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No Soupbone... I never mentioned Merchandising... U did. I said that we have a great potential... I was trying to point out that with the Name Brand Name we could make a lot of money thru a lot of different ideas.
example.. we paid nothing to go to Swansea.
1000 jamaican fans, lets say at £15.plus the 1500 swansea fans... £37500 they made at the gate alone. So if they did get 70% of the gate receipts they got £26250. over Ja$1.5 mil. If they only got half of receipts they still made over Ja$1 mil. Now five of these games over the summer wouldn't make us rich but we would have money. We could of taken time out while visiting England to find sponsors and investors. Yu dun know two dance hafi keep. I know of noplace in England where the New Jersey is on sale. Since yu talking bout merchandising.
Maybe its my mind that is closed.
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#1110 - 08/06/01 06:53 PM
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Respect the thread yah, I have a few points to add but I will say that I see many excellent points outlined already.
Don't worry about the naysayers as they will always talk without reason. Some act as if we have a contract to underacheive.
Soup-bone what happened to the 5 million dollars from France? Finance for any program listed is not a problem. Let me put this in bold
FINANCE AND MONEY IS NOT A PROBLEM and I am saying this becuase I know. Continue outlining what steps need to be taken massive and I will DEFEND the money issue to the T. Don't fall into the small county hence no money trap.
Keep it up guys I have few pointers but later
respect
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#1111 - 08/06/01 07:59 PM
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heh heh heh. That one worth three laugh.
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#1112 - 08/06/01 09:24 PM
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soup_bone1
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But wait..................
You see what happens when you don't spend time and read the posts
The question about finance and merchandising was directed towards Guidance
and was in response to his post on his "would be" plans for the JFF.
So JT and Shatta what the hell are you guys talking about ????????
Guidance
(By the way Guidance, mine me tek yu to copyright court ...get the point)
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#1113 - 08/06/01 09:36 PM
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soup_bone1
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Originally posted by Shatta_Cleve
FINANCE AND MONEY IS NOT A PROBLEM and I am saying this because I know. Continue outlining what steps need to be taken massive and I will DEFEND the money issue to the T. Don't fall into the small county hence no money trap.
Big chat boss, BIG CHAT
If yu nar jus a run up yu fourteen
Tell me how much money the outlined programs would cost and where the money would come from????
But if you are going to start with money earned three years ago don't bother.......
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#1114 - 08/06/01 09:48 PM
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Name the program and I will tell you where the money will come from.
I am here waiting
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#1115 - 08/06/01 09:50 PM
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Well Soup, yuh know seh Real Madrid bruk di bank last month to sign Zidane and before the ink could dry nuff T-Shirts were been sold to recoup the costs. Well we nuh have Zidane and Figo but ask any soccerfan in Argentina, Brazil, France and England and im can name a handful of Reggae BOYZ.
The merchants of The Trade are making a killing merchandising anything that can stamp with a $ sign. It is a Cash Cow. How much milk we get out of ours. A time wi start MILK IT b4 it get Hard Up.
Tuesday July 10, 12:00 PM
Real looking for Zidane profit Real Madrid president Florentino Perez is confident that the Spanish champions will reap a profit from the world record signing Zinedine Zidane. Speaking after the French star's move from Serie A side Juventus, Perez confirmed that the transfer fee was £41.4m, but the payment schedule over three years, and the interest charges, brought the final payment to the £45.8m mark."As everyone knows what may at first appear expensive is often cheap in the long run. As well as being profitable from sporting terms I have absolutely no doubt the Zidane deal will be profitable from the economic perspective," said Perez.The club have made the first steps to recouping their huge investment, with the sale of 200 replica shirts with Zidane's name and the number five, costing £59 each, in the first hour of the playmaker completing his move.
More stories from the Sportal site
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/sports/ht...real_madrid.asp
Zidane makes world record move to Real Madrid
ReutersTuesday, July 10, 2001
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Employees at the Real Madrid club confirmed that the club had already received a massive delivery of shirts bearing the player's name.
Sales of the Zidane shirt are expected to exceed those of any other player in the star-studded Real squad and will comprise the first stage in the club's plan to recoup the world record fee.
Soup, who sang "Sitting on the dock at the bay...(wasting time, ah hah time)"?
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