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#103195 - 08/07/08 11:01 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Onelele]
cornel
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so marlon king is the new walter boyd. if that is really true then can we really blame mr simoes for his action? let dicipline prevail.
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#103199 - 08/08/08 12:50 AM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jray]
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 Originally Posted By: jray
 Originally Posted By: comedyguy
what about dane richards of the new york red bulls i think he should be given a chance as well as jason euell kevin lisbie, and damani ralph


you've certainly lived up to your name ;\)


lisbie does'nt want to represent jamaica anymore ralph is injury also richards i would luv to see jason euell begging for a second chance!

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#103237 - 08/08/08 08:31 AM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: wise baller]
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Jason Euell is a old man now 33.

I want to see Darren Byfield

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#103255 - 08/08/08 10:39 AM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Onelele]
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I got sources close the action bredrin. King get cut because him dis Rene after the first Bahamas game. Simoes Bench him fi di second games and him diss the boss again. simple.
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#103259 - 08/08/08 10:54 AM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: AKA Scallawah]
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Unless it can be shown that Simoes was doing or saying something inappropriate that justified the alleged diss, if you diss the program, you got to go. You have to have discipline, and you can't have a player acting as though he runs the team, because if you diss the boss, you are undermining the boss and team discipline.

If what AKA is saying is true, King deserved to get cut.
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#103260 - 08/08/08 10:57 AM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: shaggybear]
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...and I actually liked King. I realize this undermines the arguments of those who never truly understood what it meant to be a card-carrying member of the Onandi Lowe Haters Club.
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#103262 - 08/08/08 11:10 AM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: shaggybear]
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Well, well, well....Simoes is stamping his authority on the squad. I don't agree with the timing or the handling of the matter but mi RESPECT it.
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#103271 - 08/08/08 12:40 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jamatl]
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Any player not listening to their boss on all levels must go but Simoes left the door open hopefully King will learn is lesson and get a recall.
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#103275 - 08/08/08 02:17 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jamatl]
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The speculation is killing me - Simoes should state why a player is team captain one game and then dont get call up for a crucial game. This is especially alarming when the player is your most productive striker and from the games I have seen one of your best players period. I know alot of yard man dont like the UB40 yutes but without players with european/overseas experience JA is going nowhere. The point is you cant have one size fits all when you have a team of different personalities - it wouldbe great to have your best players following the coaches script but just like Phil Jackson had to bend a litte for Michael Jordan Simoes need to bend for his "stars". You cant 'bwoy' up your players period (this is not a collection of U19s). But your stars especially have to treated like stars - and the caoch bend a little. Unless Marlon told Simoes about his parts he should be in the squad - now is not the time to drop one of your best players.
The professor needs to check his ego - in dealing with a variety of players like I said one size cant fit all - how you communicate to the player is also crucial. BRING BACK MARLON before it is too late.

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#103283 - 08/08/08 03:22 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: FunctionB4Form]
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So FBForm, I agree with some of what you say about allowing some flexibility to deal with some egos of players who have proven themselves invaluable to the team. However, it has limits. Now I don't know what King said to Simoes.

I am assuming whatever he said must have been significant enough for him to get get kicked off the team. I mean, according to AKA, he got a mild punishment (benched against Bahamas) but then he must have taken it to another level. I tell you what, let me back off, because I have now joined the speculation crew even though I have no idea what transpired.
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#103285 - 08/08/08 03:33 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: andreyellow]
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 Originally Posted By: andreyellow
The REASON FINALLY OUT!!!

According to sports commentry on TVJ, oral tracy thought that the reason given buy JFF was fictitious and he did some snooping on his own, to find out that the reason for KING BEING AXED! is :

In the first Qualifier against BAHAMAS king was pissed about being substituted and him lick out him sound gainst SIMOES!wicked wicked and curse bare badword, so inturn SIMOES bench him in the return leg, and its reported that after the return leg match finished him did give it to simoes wickeder!!! than the first leg

Come to think of it If look at the tapes u notice him never have on nuh shirt for the whole match so i guess him never intended to play even if simoes was to sub him on.

SO there u have it All speculation Closed! UNO have the reason now so wah uno a seh!!!


but wait king real crazy ... even Dwight Yorke never curse out any of our coach and he had his ways ... wha the hell king accomplish to think he so big as to not be taken offf? good fuh he yes

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#103288 - 08/08/08 03:55 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: triniman]
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Bwoy King after the whole heap a chat wi put out fi yuh defense gainst boxhill a dis yuh come duh.

Seem like yuh waa prove di whole a wi wrong.

Boxhill must be turning in his grave .. wait .. him nuh dead

Mi cyaa believe di man duh dat ina a match weh wi nuh need him fi play the whole match. Him should even glad fi rest the second match because it was meaningless.

IF this is true and I hope it's not someone needs to get him some anger management care.

It's a loss.

Seem like Jamaica have some dutch like issues.
Coach and star players cyaa gree equal under achieving side.

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#103290 - 08/08/08 04:01 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Mahdu]
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him prove the whole a 'unuh' wrong

mi dun see through King from The 2006 Quals gainst the USA.

a nuff man cuss mi and run mi and call me all kind a tings

weh dem deh now

weh dem deh?

unuh a guh DEFEND SLACKNESS as usual?

or unuh a go be a MAN bout it and seh bwoy BadRas did right

King naw nuh respect and him fi gooway!

mi no business how good him is

him want a kick inna him teeth !!

come a diss the program repeatedly!

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#103299 - 08/08/08 04:40 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Humble Lion]
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What did king do against the USA HL just curious???IN 2006
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#103393 - 08/09/08 04:49 AM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Humble Lion]
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 Originally Posted By: Humble Lion


mi dun see through King from The 2006 Quals gainst the USA.


A nuh mi alone did see it....I was going to touch on this in my post, but decided to be more general. Personally, I got the feeling that King look down on the Jamaican players - this was most evident in the US game in Ohio. I have no insights into the team, but from my observation, it seemed that some of the players were a bit hesitant with King on the field. I remember one instant in particular when he called from and did not received the ball - he told the player to F off... like I said, good goal scorer, but team may be better off without him.
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#103526 - 08/11/08 02:57 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: jray]
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Simoes a move like ediat
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#103573 - 08/12/08 10:53 AM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Ballaprof]
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Mi nah support no sort a indicipline and if (so far a speculation) king diss simoes and di country because dem tek him off di field den mi sorry, him must not wear the national colours until him respect the black green and gold.

However weh WMD and boxjuice do is f_ckery. It showed incompetence and lack of management capability. so me nah judge him base pon dem two clown deh
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#103589 - 08/12/08 03:55 PM Re: Marlon king axed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: zilla]
Humble Lion
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di same ting weh him do simoes and boxhill triniman
cuss dem off
anyway, mi naw too dwell pon dat ;\)

respect zilla
mi agree seh yuh nuh fi judge him still

one ting mi respect bout king still
him nuh partial like nuff guy round here
him cuss man who show incompetence and lack of management capabilty and him also cuss 'competent man wid management capabilty'









Edited by Humble Lion (08/12/08 03:56 PM)

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