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#10259 - 03/21/02 12:39 PM Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Richard Langley one of the best young playmaker in England talked about his future. It seems that he is ready to play for Jamaica against Slovenia, but Carl Brown must talk with him.

Jamaica or England?

I've now played two full games for the first team since recovering from my injury and up to now I think it's been a case of so far, so good. The results haven't gone quite as we'd planned but from a personal point of view I've been happy with my form and my fitness has held up nicely.

I now need to add a few things to my game as the weeks go by, and then I should be back to the level I was playing at before I got injured almost a year ago. At Northampton on Saturday, Gavin Peacock and Matthew Rose were the only players on the pitch that I'd played with before for QPR, which is amazing, but nevertheless I still feel at home with Rangers.

My comeback has also presented me with a tricky dilemma that I was about to face before my injury struck last year. The Jamaican FA have this week been on the phone to renew their interest in making me a full international for them, which is great news. At the time of my injury I was weighing up whether to play for Jamaica or for England Under-21s but that decision was obviously then put on hold.

I'm now too old for the Under-21s, so my decision has been made slightly easier. Do I wait and see if I'm good enough for England in a few years time, or do I grab the opportunity of playing full international football immediately with Jamaica?

Firstly, I need to have a chat with the Jamaican manager before spending some time thinking it over with my family. Either way, it is a lovely choice to make, especially so soon after making my comeback.

Finally, I'd like to pass on my congratulations to Clarke Carlisle, who won Britain's brainiest footballer on TV last week. We always knew he was the smartest guy at the club but even he surprised himself by winning the show! He told me before the programme was broadcast that he'd won but I thought he might have been winding me up.

Clarke hasn't even received any stick from the rest of the lads because quite simply we're in awe of his cleverness!
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#10260 - 03/21/02 01:26 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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What team does this guy play for?
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#10261 - 03/21/02 01:39 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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andy nuh get too excited
mine jt kick u off the forum..

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#10262 - 03/21/02 01:51 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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why is this playing for "country" thing taken so lightly. Think I better stop discussing this topic because no pride seem to be left in most Jamaicans. Its all about farin and winin. Imagine man sit down: my father born in england, Grandfather born in france, mother-germany, grandmother, italy, oh but wait, I have a great granpa from Ja, yeah but my birthplace is Brazil: I'll wait on brazil, oif they dont call its France...........
When did International football become like this
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#10263 - 03/21/02 02:13 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Firstly, I need to have a chat with the Jamaican manager before spending some time thinking it over with my family. Either way, it is a lovely choice to make, especially so soon after making my comeback.

I not going to wrong the youth. I would always expect a person born in England to have a desire to play for his country of birth. But the man has recognized a lovely choice. From him see say his a no lose situation he's on the right track as far as I am concerned. Jamaica is far removed from this WC, so if he was to join the team now I would back that to the max. No more though, because we have to give our home boys a shot. BUT! if he is better he should play!
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#10264 - 03/21/02 07:52 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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I remember reading some time ago on this site where this fellow 'could not wait to dawn the Natuional Colours.' Now he is comtemplating whether or not he should represent us. I beginning to wonder whether his heart was really into it.
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#10265 - 03/22/02 09:41 AM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Really B? I know there was interest in him, but I always go the impression that there was a decision to be made in his mind. Cause from back then he was talking about the possibility of playing for england as well.

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#10266 - 03/22/02 03:32 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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I THINK WE'RE BEING USED!!! I get the impression that playing for 'YARD' is not paramount amongst these Englishborn players. They step up and announce that personnel from the Jamaican federation has approach them, in doing this they gain the attention of the British federation. Soon after the media starts paying attention to their game and if they impress this puts pressure on the coaches and managers of the respective British team to select them before "YARD" does. I may have seen conspiracy theory one time too many but I think thre's some truth to my views. To the powers that be STOP approaching these young men, allow them to state clearly (privately in writing if needs be) where their alliances lay before we take a serious look at them. The failure of the Jamaican team during the last World Cup shouldn't be attributed to tactical and technical faults by the coaching staff only. But their inability or/and unwillingness to weed out players who exhibited selfish attitudes on and off the field. Players who failed to involve their teammates on the field (Onandi Though he's one of my favourite players), those who felt that because they play in a more recognizable league they should walk straight into the starting eleven, or players who upon entering the team finances become more important than represent the National team. The financial problems I lay solely at the feet of the JFF administration. To pay a player more simple because he plays overseas cannot be a fair and unbias system. Players should be paid according to their 'standing ' with the team and fans alike. 'Caps'or the number of appearances made for the team should be a major factor.

Again, CEASE and DESIST from calling players into the National Team who seemingly does not have the Naional interest at heart.

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#10267 - 03/22/02 04:46 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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AMen to dat Brush
Being saying that for a while
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#10268 - 03/22/02 05:02 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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And I thought it was a done deal....

I hear what U R saying Brush and Plush...

Gigo...its the wrong moderator U talking about.
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#10269 - 03/24/02 03:50 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Originally posted by brush:
I THINK WE'RE BEING USED!!! I get the impression that playing for 'YARD' is not paramount amongst these Englishborn players. They step up and announce that personnel from the Jamaican federation has approach them, in doing this they gain the attention of the British federation. Soon after the media starts paying attention to their game and if they impress this puts pressure on the coaches and managers of the respective British team to select them before "YARD" does. I may have seen conspiracy theory one time too many but I think thre's some truth to my views. To the powers that be STOP approaching these young men, allow them to state clearly (privately in writing if needs be) where their alliances lay before we take a serious look at them. The failure of the Jamaican team during the last World Cup shouldn't be attributed to tactical and technical faults by the coaching staff only. But their inability or/and unwillingness to weed out players who exhibited selfish attitudes on and off the field. Players who failed to involve their teammates on the field (Onandi Though he's one of my favourite players), those who felt that because they play in a more recognizable league they should walk straight into the starting eleven, or players who upon entering the team finances become more important than represent the National team. The financial problems I lay solely at the feet of the JFF administration. To pay a player more simple because he plays overseas cannot be a fair and unbias system. Players should be paid according to their 'standing ' with the team and fans alike. 'Caps'or the number of appearances made for the team should be a major factor.

Again, CEASE and DESIST from calling players into the National Team who seemingly does not have the Naional interest at heart.


Tru Dat Iya.
If they want to play a yard mek dem tek de same route Burton and Co. took. At least that way we'll know way in advance where their heart is.


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#10270 - 03/24/02 04:42 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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You guy might be correct,in asumming that these guys are trying to use JA to further their individuals causes. As shaggy said, its only natural for these guys born in ENGLAND or where-ever to face this delimma. But the flip side of this is, thes guys have to face the likely-hood, that after playing one game for ENGLAND they might not be re-called again, and thus never having thie dreams of playing in the WC fulfilled. Plus, the fact is sometimes these guy might TRUELY wanna play for JA, but their individual clubs put pressure on their stars to no do so. Remember, the travelling time is lone. So, players, who are eligable to play for SCOTLAND, WALES, IRELAND, REP of Ireland, England are JAMAICA, the obvious choice for these clubs would be to steer the players to ENGLAND. If that doesn't work the SCOTLAND, WALES, and the IRELANDS. These club for the most part have invested far more dough in these players.

The reason many of us on the forum can not relate to the delemma these guys face is becoz, we were either, raised in JA or never played professionally. Obviously, I haven't played pro-ball, but being raised in JA, it i was good enought to play for JA it would be a no brainer.
I garantee you guys if the ENGLISH FA came to JA and picked 20 of our best 20y/o to play for their top clubs in ENGLAND. With a sitpulation that for 5yrs they can not play for JA during that time. and the local clubs are rewarded, $1 million each and the players are payed $1 million. Some might say this is small charge but the player who has a family to provide for might not. I think a large number of the players would jump at this opportunity, whould i blame them, nah.
I know many players that have made sacrifices to play for JA and have nothing to show for it, so all who its getting high and mighty about this issue should look at the BIG picture. How many of the 98 players have gotten the big promises made by the GOVERNMENT?
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#10271 - 03/25/02 12:16 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Langley to join Reggae Boyz ?
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Queen's Park Rangers midfielder, Richard Langley, has revealed he is considering playing for Jamaica when he returns to action after his season-ending knee injury, according to reports in the British media.

The talented midfielder is on the fringes of the England Under-21 set-up but the request to turn out for the Reggae Boyz could be too big an opportunity for him to resist. Langley said: "My dad and other family are from Jamaica so they have urged me to take up the chance.


"I talked also with former Reggae Boy and teammate Danny Maddix and he said I should prefer the "Reggae Boyz". It is believed that Leicester City, Charlton Athletic, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Chelsea are keen to sign Richard Langley next season.

Langley was invited to the Jamaica squad by coach Clovis de Oliveira in February, but he was unable to take up the offer, as he was nursing a serious knee injury. He is expected to be out for the rest of the English season.
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#10272 - 03/25/02 12:16 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Queen's Park Rangers midfielder, Richard Langley, has revealed he is considering playing for Jamaica when he returns to action after his season-ending knee injury, according to reports in the British media.

The talented midfielder is on the fringes of the England Under-21 set-up but the request to turn out for the Reggae Boyz could be too big an opportunity for him to resist. Langley said: "My dad and other family are from Jamaica so they have urged me to take up the chance.


"I talked also with former Reggae Boy and teammate Danny Maddix and he said I should prefer the "Reggae Boyz". It is believed that Leicester City, Charlton Athletic, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Chelsea are keen to sign Richard Langley next season.

Langley was invited to the Jamaica squad by coach Clovis de Oliveira in February, but he was unable to take up the offer, as he was nursing a serious knee injury. He is expected to be out for the rest of the English season.
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#10273 - 03/25/02 03:43 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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I understand the issue of ‘allegiance’ . However, my heart goes out to the yout’ with obvious skills/raw talent who does not have the choice (!) of playing for someone else. The ‘baller whose lifelong dream is to one day don a black/gold/green jersey and go out on a field and represent the only country he knows. A yout’ whose only wish is to represent the land of his birth. But, alas, that dream may be shattered by losing a spot to a foreign born player –who was fortunate enough to have a Jamaican parent and who if he doesn’t get called for his home country’s team can always ‘get invited’ into the Jamaican national programme.
Maybe the JFF does have a 5 year plan! Realizing that there is much talent to harvest from elsewhere, they are watching young players now in other countries with known Jamaican connections. Have them get consistent/organized/professional training and then “call dem up” when them old enough. So there is no need to invest in developing any programme at home! After all, we can always reap where we have not sown. Why invest in a real squad, have them train TOGETHER for more than a week, pay them a decent salary, provide proper facilities for them to dwell and train. I know, as usual, Princess is always dreaming…
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#10274 - 03/25/02 03:50 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Though Langley had quitely accepted our offer about a year ago but didn't join due to injury. As with all the english balled I will reserve judgement until I see them show up, commit and play.
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#10275 - 03/25/02 04:52 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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My heart bleeds for them Princess. It truly does.

Maybe they will stand with us and call for the end of Burrell and his clowns administration and not be like the so called patriotic 'ites on the forum who take every opportunity to big up Burrell and crew anbd help keep his useless self at our service...

Still these youngsters should by know, have already worked out that they must not depend on Burrell and the JFF...

Learn new ways of football, practice hard, build your potential... Trust mi...The days of JFF monopoly will soon end...

The more successful the senior reggaeboys are with contracts, the more interest there will be in talent in Ja. The Reggaeboys are bigger than the JFF....
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#10276 - 03/25/02 05:22 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Something to think about. A poor yout with no family to speak of, no care from "the state" and a generally uncaring society of his existence.What then is this great desire to play for "yard" if "yard" has generally abandoned him.His patriotism is towards himself and no one else but himself.It is us the "patriots", the "fan" that tries to read more into the reasons why he wants to play for the black/green/gold. He see's it as a stepping stone to a better life, we see it as a "balla representing we". The developed balla like an englishman or italian has the luxury of being comfortable with himself, while our balla needs to beg a ride to get home after the game.What feeling does he possess for his "country" after that experience.
I would love to be ideal and say that every balla should jump to play for us and feel the yearning desire to represent the black/green/gold but alas if we accept and allow our local balla the merest of existences as a person in this society, we get what we deserve with non-committed farin balla's. Par for the course.

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#10277 - 03/25/02 05:58 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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I remember when I just came to this forum and was advocating this very same thing. That local yout a get shafted with this "English based" recruitment , I was chastised to high heaven.

The more things change the more they remain the same !!!!!!

The main reason why we succeeded in 1998 and failed in 2002 is that in 98 we had a team
( in every sense of the word) in 2002 we had a side.

Big difference.

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#10278 - 03/25/02 11:04 PM Re: Jamaica or England? Richard Langley
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Princess the luxury that Jamaica has of having so much ballers in England who can represent us was always going to be an asset to us or an excuse for complacency. I respect to the max what you are saying. I hope they are more selective in the players they select (from England) because we have made some spectacular blunders in the past. We have had so much people who have come to Jamaica and were suppose to be our savior but were exposed to be ordinary. I have no problem with the UB40’s but we should only go there for stars. It makes no sense to make a lateral move by going for someone in England when we have an equally talented local player who we can invest in. I do hope these new guys are stars and will make an impact. Maybe we can even make a genuine striker out of one them so we can have an option upfront as oppose to everything being on the shoulders of one man.
Big up Andy scout.




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