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#10002 - 03/17/02 02:39 PM Rasta leader welcomes queen
Hamilton Israel
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Rasta leader welcomes Queen

Brother Samuel Clayton


Balford Henry, Staff Reporter

RASTAFARIAN leader, Samuel Clayton, thinks that Queen Elizabeth II is a gracious queen and is looking forward to meet her when she comes tomorrow.

"To us she is really the gracious queen," he said as we sat down to speak on the issue, at his home in St. Andrew.

As far as Brother Sam, as he is affectionately called, is concerned there have been three important Queens of England - Elizabeth I, Victoria and Elizabeth II. He isn't smitten by the first Elizabeth for, "giving the first slave ship, the Jesus Lubeck, to John Hawks to start the slave trade." He acknowledges Victoria for bringing about emancipation in the colonies. But she is not in the class of the current Elizabeth, he insists.

"She is the gracious queen, in contrast to her discredited predecessors. She gave the colonies their independence," Brother Sam pointed out. This was in reference to the fact that most English colonies were given independence during her reign. Sir Harold McMillan, then British Prime Minister, is often credited with those developments, however.

Brother Sam said that he met the Queen the last time she was here, 1994, at a reception at Kings House at which he was accompanied by Philmore Alvaranga. He and Alvaranga were members of the Jamaican Rastafarian mission which went to the United Nations headquarters in New York in 1963, in an abortive bid to meet then Secretary General U Thant on the repatriation issue.

They were introduced to Prince Philip by the Governor General. "We spoke to Prince Philip and he went and got the Queen and brought her over. We spoke about Ethiopia, because they had visited there the same month we left there in 1963," he explained.

Following their failure to meet Thant, despite demonstrating in freezing weather
outside the U.N. office, Brother Sam, Avaranga and Douglas Mack, then travelled on
the second mission to Ethiopia, financed by the Jamaican Government. Their mission was to discuss the possibility of Jamaican Rastas relocating to Ethiopia.

They had planned to stay for a few weeks, but ended up spending six months as
guests of the late Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie. The Emperor wanted them to learn enough about the country and its culture, to explain it to their brethrens in Jamaica on their return.

At the Kings House reception, Alvaranga actually gave the Queen one of two gold medals he had received from the Ethiopian Emperor. Brother Sam explained that Alvaranga had two such medals. He had received a medal on each of the two missions to Ethiopia.

"He gave her as a gesture of royal summons, for our proposals that she meet with us to discuss the resettlement of people in Africa," said Brother Sam.

They had sent a letter, with 10,000 signatures, to the Queen from 1964, requesting that she discuss with them the possibility of the British Government providing financial support for repatriation to Africa. The only response they ever got was an acknowledgement from King's House that she received the letter. But, he said, the
Queen informed them that she had responded.

Brother Sam gave the Queen a poem he had written for her, titled Ode To The Queen.
It was written in old English, printed in gold on a velvet background.

She told them that she liked the drumming of the Mystic Revelation of Rastafari (MRR), of which Brother Sam is a member. They had played for her at Devon House on a previous visit.

Now Brother Sam says he wants to make another request to meet with her to discuss the issue of financial support for repatriation. The 1964 letter had suggested
that she donate 140 pounds (sterling) towards the effort.

Brother Sam concedes that his tactics are different from those of some other Rastas, who see the Queen as a symbol of colonialism and slavery.

"We are the most classic revolutionaries or rebels with a cause. We don't fight with guns and bombs and spears. We use the lyrics of song and poetry. Our struggle should be embraced and our approach is an inspirational challenge. We deserve a
Nobel peace prize. Jesus was the only other person who went further and offered to turn another cheek," he sermonised.

Now he is eagerly awaiting the visit which starts tomorrow.

"I am looking forward to her visit. I am not sure I will be able to talk to her this time, but I would love to, mainly to get a positive assurance about resettlement in Africa. In addition, this may be her last visit and I want her to close as graciously as she started," he said.

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#10003 - 03/18/02 03:37 AM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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Whey yaa sey Guidance and Ites?..........

Did you see the distinction the Ras made about the previous Queens from the present one?

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#10004 - 03/18/02 12:45 PM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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mibrother Her Pumpness just cum get likkle sUn and do a likkle politicking fi steer us away from going republic, since shi wants us to stay in (their commonWEALTH) and have sway over us wid her Privy council.

Why people don't call her by her right name - WELFARE Queen.

It's a pity England wasn't the 51st state of the US - then Clinton could have her by his side, instead of 2 blacks, when he signed the Welfare Bill.
btw how u like how rastaman tek the gold medal - AND GIVE the nice lady who deh pon WELFARE - that was a nice gesture, eeeeenn, heheheheh!!!!
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#10005 - 03/18/02 02:14 PM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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me a little lost, i thought the Queen visit yard bout 2 weeks ago?
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#10006 - 03/19/02 12:37 AM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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 Quote:
Originally posted by saltman:
me a little lost, i thought the Queen visit yard bout 2 weeks ago?


Yes Saltman, this article was written Sunday Feb.17.

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#10007 - 03/19/02 09:34 AM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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Big up Bredda Sam. A man I know very well. very artical man. Bredda Sam and Mystic Revelation of rastafari a fight the battle. Big, his wife, Bredda Royo, Cedric Hymn Brooks and all a them man deh.

Nuff Respect

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#10008 - 03/19/02 11:08 AM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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I don't know, I am inclined to kiss my teet pon this one.

I don't see how anyone here could be bigging up the queen. I don't remember hearing her act legitimately in support of any black interest. Getting the natives back to africa is certainly a worthy cause.

I can't believe the man go give her a medal him get from Selassie. As though them people not tiefin enough gold, you going to give them the likkle you have left as well?
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#10009 - 03/19/02 11:23 AM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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Heh u know what mi a wonda
If the nice Welfare Lady ask Sam to make her look at the medal and she "forgot" to give im back - and Sam nuh want let the puss outa di bag and seh "a tek shi tek it".
So Sam respectfully bow to Her Pumpness' "common(but)wealthly forgetfulness"
eeeenn???

Poor Sam!
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#10010 - 03/19/02 11:36 AM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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Is a wonder we are in the situtation we are in today. Tief from brother sam and sleep with uncle sam.
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#10011 - 03/22/02 02:52 PM Re: Rasta leader welcomes queen
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Seems like di bingy dem run out a fire!

All a pay homage to the Queen

sound like di ole days when man haffi gi tribute to di empire

Lol .. Bun a fire pon a queen
Bun a fire pon a mystic revelation of rasta

Lightin!! .. thundah !!

Lick dem Jah !!

How can di wicked rain !!!

[This message has been edited by Mahdu (edited 03-22-2002).]

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